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18 Dec 2017 10:33:46
Indy: Clarckson+ H Barnes

LA: T Young+ A Jefferson

Dallas: Deng+C Joseph+ Leaf+ 1rnd pick Indy 2018+ 1rnd pick Indy 2020+1rnd pick LA Lakers 2020+swap option 2019 LA Lakers pick

LA will have 87M capspace, sign PG13/D Cousins/ Bradley
C: D Cousins? Zubac
PF:Kuzma/Nance
SF: PG13/Bradley
SG: Ingram/bradley
PG:Ball/Ennis

Indy becomes a contender
C:Turner
PF:Sabonis
SF:H Barnes
Sg:Oladipo
PG:clarckson
And they still have enough capspace to sign a max contract.

Dallas go's in rebuilt mode getting 3 first round picks for taking Dengs contract and a young prospect in Leaf.

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18 Dec 2017 16:32:15
Lakers and Pacers aren't doing deals with each other after what happened with tampering charges.

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14 Dec 2017 13:31:40
A trade dealine deal, if OKC keep strugling.


OKC: B Griffin+ clarckson

LA Lakers: Westbrook

clippers: L Ball+ Ingram+ Deng+ A robertson

OKC
C:Adams
PF: B Griffin
SF:C Anthony
SG:P George
PG: clarckson

LA can go after two free agents next year

Clippers start a rebuilt. They propably keep the 2019 and 2020 pick, so they only have to give 2 2rnd picks. Ball stays in LA and can get a fresh start(hopefully without his dad)

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18 Dec 2017 05:33:14
Westbrook is a selfish-ball movement killer. His assists either come from pick n roll with Adams or a pass to a shooter with 7 secs or less.

Example: Melo was shooting well vs the 76ers, so what does Westbrook do? Hogs the ball and does everything except pass to Melo. I’m sure Melo could’ve closed the game and it didn’t have to go 3 overtime’s.

Don’t trade 2 young selfless players with tons of potential for a 28 year old ball hog. Not worth it. Why would you do that? Serious question? Lonzo has been playing well, I’m not sure why you would think it’s okay to trade a rookie 30 games in with 2 triple doubles already and a career high 29 that came on his second ever nba game (higher than Ingram in his two seasons) . Absolutely no point. If it’s Lavar you’re worried about, he’s not the one making the Lakers the bottom team in free throws, he’s not the one making bad rotations and still starting Nance instead of Kuzma or Randle. He’s overrrated in terms of what people see as an “impact on the team”.

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18 Dec 2017 16:31:27
Thunder aren't trading Westbrook so you can scratch that.

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13 Dec 2017 04:45:59
Lakers/ Thunder

Lakers receive: George

Thunder receive: Randle, KCP

OKC starters:
PG: Westbrook
SG: KCP
SF: Anthony
PF: Randle
C: Adams

LAL starters:
PG: Ball
SG: George
SF: Ingram
PF: Nance
C: Lopez

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13 Dec 2017 03:20:39
Crazy trade but do you think

La get C. Anthony and PG13

OKC get Jordan Clarkson, Corey Brewer, Julius Randle and Luol Deng.

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14 Dec 2017 06:14:37
I’ll do that as long as melo opts out lmao.

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11 Dec 2017 11:04:46
Last year i made this trade:

Philly: Ingram+ dropping the protection on the LA pick

LA: B Simmons

So Philly would have the 2nd and 3 rd pick, drafting Ball and Tatum

Philly:
C: Embiid
PF: Saric
SF: Tatum
SG: Ingram
PG: Ball


LA sent a future 1rnd pick (they own the 2018 pick) to the Nets with Mozgov for B Lopez

LA:
C: B Lopez/ Zubac
PF: Kuzma/randle
SF: Nance
SG: Russell
PG: B Simmons

Should they do this trade, if they could redo it?

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11 Dec 2017 11:03:48
OKC: Clarkson, Kuzma, Brewer


Lakers: PG13


Doubt if James leaves CAVS, but if he does, creates that space. OKC will still be competitive. Clarkson another ball handler. Anthony, and Kuzma is good small ball, and Brewer expires, but can still play D for this season. PG13 comes home. Where he belongs

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12 Dec 2017 04:44:43
I don’t understand trading for him. If he wants to be here he can sign this off season. And if he doesn’t want to be here we lost Clarkson and Kuzma. Makes no sense to me. It is not worth the risk of him leaving during the off season. To any free agent having Clarkson and Kuzma on the team is more appeling.

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08 Dec 2017 16:27:16
SAC - LAL - MEM

Dec - 14th Trade

SAC get: Mike Conley and Marc Gasol

LAL get: Chandler Parsons, WCS, and Josh Jackson

MEM get: Luol Deng, Jordan Clarkson, Bogan Bogdonovich (waive), George Hill, Kostas Koufos (waive), Julius Randle (s&t), and Buddy Heild

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08 Dec 2017 20:54:32
U mean Justin Jackson.

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07 Dec 2017 02:09:31
Lakers/ Suns/ Hawks

Lakers receive: Tyson Chandler, Tyler Ulis, 2018 1st (Suns)

Suns receive: Julius Randle, Marco Belleneli

Hawks receive: Brook Lopez, 2019 second (Lakers)

*waive Ennis

PG: Ball/Ullis
SG: KCP/Clarkson/Blue
SF: Ingram/Deng/Brewer
PF: Kuzma/Nance/Bryant
C: Chandler/Zubac

Unpopular opinion: I think Deng can give us 10&5 off the bench which is a lot better than what Brewer is doing. Deng can still do a lot that Brewer can't. He deserves some minutes.

Second unpopular opinion: Lakers need a backup PG. Ulis can shoot and fill that void. Chandler is also top 20 in rebounds. Lakers have no one top 20. This lineup provides a lot of spacing and rebounding. Chandler brings toughness. I like this deal regardless of his contract.

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07 Dec 2017 05:48:39
Lakers do not want to add more money for next year. They are trying to get more cap space not less.

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07 Dec 2017 16:47:27
To add what Toolguy was saying the Lakers have no plans to play Luol Deng. So its not really an opinion when something isn't going to happen. In Deng's 13 minutes he did play he looked lost.

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07 Dec 2017 21:43:20
Deng should just get bought out.

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07 Dec 2017 22:14:17
Judging a players by 13 minutes played is no different than calling Zo a bust less than 30 games in but whatever you say, you’re the basketball genius right.

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07 Dec 2017 22:16:17
Too add to what I’m saying, none of this is really opinion if it’s not going to happen if we continue with your logic. This whole forum is a waste, if we continue to apply your logos. All that cap space and the only realistic option is PG13. They can only offer him so much. Chandlers contract is only 13M for one more year after this. If they extend Randle, I wonder what their cap would be and your responses.

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08 Dec 2017 17:49:47
GM step into reality dude. Deng most likely will not play another minute for the Lakers and will be stretched at the end of the season. You can sit here and argue or disagree all you want its not going to change. Are you an LA resident GM? Do you watch Lakers insiders and local Lakers coverage? If you did you would know the thought process of the Lakers and already know what is happening. This is a developmental year and Walton and management want to play the young guys. Chandler makes zero sense for what the Lakers want to do plus he is having a very poor season. If PG13 comes then that is what happens. If he doesn't there will be back up plans.

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12 Dec 2017 02:23:24
Lol you really think you know how the Lakers think because you watch Lakers insider shows LOL! Chandler’s having a bad season? BUT unlike any Laker, he’s top 15 in rebounding! You’re really just a fan just like me. Get off your high horse. Chandler doesn’t fit but “I can’t grab 5 boards a game” Lopez does? Oh it’s because he can (occasionally) shoot a 3, I forgot! Please tell me more on the Lakers thought process, o mighty one. (sarcasm) Remember when you said they wouldn’t trade Russell and questioned my trades with Russell then they TRADED RUSSELL? Yeah, I’ll take your “insider” - based know-it-all remarks with a grain of salt.

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12 Dec 2017 07:26:37
Well when Magic Johnson himself tells everybody what his plans are directly its kind of hard to say oh they will do this or that. He said he is trying to preserve cap space and acquiring Chandler ruins that. You know he is owed $13M next year right? Chandler's contract isn't expiring so Lakers aren't doing that.

I still believe they shouldn't have traded Russell. If no allstar free agents come then that will be a mistake. I knew Russell was on the market and at the time I thought he would go to the Pacers. I still believe that Russell and Ball could've worked together but hey that was Magic's decision. However I can only judge after what happens in the offseason. I will say it again. If no allstar free agent comes to the Lakers this offseason then the Russell trade was a mistake.

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12 Dec 2017 20:34:11
I know how much chandler is owed.13M is a reasonable price for one more year. Especially when the 2019 free agency center class is pretty good and a lot of those guys will fit well with the Lakers core (ala Nikola Jokic / Deandre Jordan - unrestricted) .

Russell was a known party boy in LA. Lakers defense would be lackluster and he would probably show up to practice lethargic and drunken as I’m sure he has. He’s been injured to the point where he’s missed weeks these past two seasons. He is better off somewhere where they aren’t looking to be serious for a while. I doubt Paul George stays in OKC where his play doesn’t translate to wins. More so, I have no problem with going after mid tier players that won’t get in the way of Ingram’s development: Danny Green (possibly the best if not one of the best 3&D SG) or making an offer for Zach Lavine who was averaging 20ppg up until injury. Those guys will compliment the core well too.

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06 Dec 2017 03:35:39
BKN-LAL-CLE
Cavs get Randle (exp) and T. Booker (exp)
-Get the identical match up on D. Green with Randle and a quality backup big in Booker
Thomas/ Rose/ Calderon
JR/ Wade/ Osman
James/ Crowder/ Korver
Love/ T. Booker/ J. Green
Randle/ Zizic/ Frye

BKN gets Clarkson, T. Thompson, T. Bryant
S. Dinwiddie / Clarkson/ Whitehead
Russell/ Crabbe/ Kilpatrick
Levert/ Carroll/ J. Harris
RHJ/ T. Bryant/ (Carroll)
T. Thompson/ J. Allen/ T. Zeller (T. Mozgov)

LAL gets J. Lin (exp with player option) , Toronto 2018 first (via Brooklyn), Q. Acy (exp.

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05 Dec 2017 22:09:13
Thoughts about this scenario:
Lakers receive: George, Abrines, Huestis
Thunder receive: Randle, Deng, Clarkson

The lakers would clear 34 million in cap space. You get Paul george to accept his player option of 20 million and that leaves you with a total team salary of 45 million heading into the off season. This means Lakers would still have space to sign two max contracts with George already on the team, plus having George on the team already would make other all star free agents more likely to come and play for the Lakers.

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06 Dec 2017 05:06:34
Why would OKC do this? If they were worried about George leaving they wouldn’t of traded for him.

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06 Dec 2017 05:17:20
It all depends on how things pan out before the deadline. If they continue to struggle I am certain George will leave in the offseason so rather than okc losing entirely they could get assets in return and at the same time the lakers can sign 2 more stars of their choice. Its not like OKC gave up much to get George.

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07 Dec 2017 01:04:23
Thunder will not want Deng in a Paul George deal. I rather have George, Randle, and Clarkson than just George.

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