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14 Jun 2016 01:11:22
-Draft Brandon Ingram
-trade Lou Williams and 32nd pick for Kelly Oubre
-Sign Hassan Whiteside for the max
-Sign Bismack Biyombo for $15 million
-Sign Kent Bazemore for $15 million
2016 squad would have a rotation looking like:
Russell
Clarkson/ Oubre
Bazemore/ Ingram
Randle/ Nance
Whiteside/ Biyombo/ Black
In the summer of 2017 I think it would behoove the Lakers to max out Gordon Hayward. With this addition the Lakers would be rotationally deep filled with lots of youthful athleticism, length, and shooting anchored by hard-rolling/ finishing rim-protectors.
2017 rotation
Russell/ Clarkson
Hayward/ Bazemore
Ingram/ Oubre
Randle/ Nance
Whiteside/ Biyombo/ Black.
1.) 15 Jun 2016 17:43:31
It would be nice to have Biyombo as a bench player but not at no $15M a season average. That's starters money. Your Williams & 32nd pick for Kelly Oubre isn't a good trade at all. Williams & the 32nd pick would make more of an impact than Oubre. I think Ingram should start over Bazemore.
29 May 2016 03:11:27
If swinging for the fences to win now.
In 2016 Summer
Trade #2, Russell, Randle, #32 for Paul George
Max Whiteside
Max Mike Conley
In 2017 Summer
Max Gordon Hayward
Conley
Hayward/ Clarkson
George
Nance
Whiteside.
28 May 2016 19:39:40
Realistic and also sticking with rebuild where youthful up and comers grow together.
Max Hassan Whiteside $21 million
Sign Kent Bazemore $15 million
Sign Dion Waiters $15 million
Bazemore can start at SF until Ingram grows into the role and earns it.
Whence LA finds a trade partner for Williams, Waiters can be their sixth man for years to come. He has been outstanding defensively and prudent offensively for OKC.
Russell/ Lou
Clarkson/ Waiters
Bazemore/ Ingram
Randle/ Nance
Whiteside/ Black.
1.) 28 May 2016 20:05:06
I like the reality of this but I feel like we can atleast get more than that
2.) 28 May 2016 20:33:22
Personally, I would rather have Ingram start, Bazemore at the 2 with Clarkson as the bench PG, Williams at back up SG (eventual trade for a younger, more versatile player) then draft Brogdon from Virginia with the 32nd pick for the back up SF.
Don't think that Waiters is worth the 15mil.
3.) 28 May 2016 21:59:26
We have to remember that Ingram is only 18 years old and a stick tiny rookie who has to adjust. Bazemore can be a legit starter as we have seen in Atlanta but he isn't such a big name with such a big contract that having him eventually lose his job to Ingram won't be an ordeal where Bazemore will transition perfectly into a high usage bench guy as he ages.
Not only is Clarkson better as a two, he isn't going to stick around to be a sixth man at a position that is secondary for him.
Waiters may not be worth that under the current CBA but the cap is going to rise this year and the following year. Waiters is a great two player who is only 23 years old who may have championship experience.
When one says that we can get better than that, to whom and what are you referring? There are 31 other teams with possibly better situations and money to spend. This is a realistic scenario that would actually be good for now and the long run that will also attract future free agents whilst keeping cap room for those new free agents.
4.) 29 May 2016 01:00:19
Brandon Ingram would be better fit to start for the Lakers over Bazemore. Yes he has work to do in the gym but that will be taken care of.
5.) 29 May 2016 05:17:28
Hmm I wouldn't necessarily say that Clarkson is better as a 2, he played pretty well when he was running the offense towards the end of his first season. I believe he would thrive in a bench role infact.
27 Feb 2016 15:55:56
Let me qualify this with a statement that the Lakers need to keep their 1-3 pick and that Chicago would possibly turn down the deal and Golden State may not let Barnes go and that my scenario is unlikely but would be ideal to me with what is available and in the realm of possibility.
Fire Byron Scott and hire Tom Thibodeau
-trade Russell, Clarkson, Randle, and 32nd pick for Jimmy Butler
-draft Jaylen Brown
-sign Mike Conley for max
-sign Harrison Barnes for Max
-sign Hassan Whiteside for Max
Conley
Butler
Brown
Barnes
Whiteside
So much size, length, defense, and a defensive minded coach with all two-way players that could match up with any team in the NBA.
1.) 27 Feb 2016 16:51:31
Lakers don't have enough cap space to sign 3 max players and acquire Butler. That's 4 Max players + having to sign the 1st round pick. Why sign Mike Conley for the Max when we have D'Angelo Russell? It just doesn't make sense to trade 3 young prospects for Butler. Just to give you an idea Lakers have enough to sign 2 Max players outright & could trade for 1 more without giving up the first round pick.
2.) 28 Feb 2016 03:27:18
Correct me if I'm wrong (again), and I mean that earnestly, but isn't the cap going to rise to $90 million? I have Conley, Whiteside, Barnes, and Butler adding up to about $83 million.
I suppose I should have said that Lou and Young must be traded or waived to make room for all of that. Is it plausible now that I've clarified that? Wouldn't Clarkson's cap hold be a most identical to Butler's salary?
I involved all three young talents to gaurantee the retrieval of Butler but I suppose it's possible they'd take only Russell and Randle for JB?
Whether it's possible or not I'm hoping that my post causes people to consider more of an old school lineup that grinds it out and isn't catering to the finesse trend of the current NBA
3.) 28 Feb 2016 04:09:44
Butler makes $17.5M next season. Russell, Randle, and Clarkson would add up to $20M if Clarkson gets say $12M starting. So That's $2.5M more salary the Lakers would need to take on. When you say Max contract that starts at $20M. You would actually hope FA players take less. So here is how it adds up
Barnes $20M, Whiteside $20M, Conley $20M, Butler $17.5M, 1st round pick $5M, Williams $7M, Young $5.4M, Nance $1.2M, Brown .9 + $2.5M more salary from another Bulls player. So your at $99.5M with 10 players. If Bass opts in that's $3M more. Your over the cap.
4.) 28 Feb 2016 06:31:03
Why wouldn't Chicago take that deal?
04 Feb 2016 03:42:18
In the event LA were to receive the 1st pick.
Three-way trade involving LAL, Boston, and Philly
-LAL get: Nerlens Noel, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder
-BOS get: 1st pick (Simmons), LAL 32nd pick, Anthony Brown
-PHI get: 3rd pick (Kris Dunn)
2016 Summer
LAL sign both Harrison Barnes and Hassan Whiteside to max contracts.
In 2017 Summer sign Russell Westbrook for the max
-2017 Roster-
Westbrook/ Clarkson
Russell/ Bradley/ Lou
Barnes/ Crowder
Randle/ Nance
Whiteside/ Noel.
1.) 04 Feb 2016 05:34:12
Your trade makes no sense. If the Sixers get the 1st pick why would they trade down to 3rd and trade Noel with that 1st pick? So Noel & lst pick for 3rd pick? lol. If the Lakers get the 1st pick why would they trade it for Noel, and 2 long term deals in Bradley & Crowder when they can just select Simmons? Simmons would have more value anyway.
2.) 04 Feb 2016 13:10:49
I'm sorry for the confusion; please allow me to clarify.
I thought it was self-evident that in this scenario the Sixers would be drafting second AND receiving Boston's third pick (via Brooklyn) in order to draft Brandon Ingram second and Kris Dunn third to finally shore up their issues at the guard and forward spots while still having a bevy of front court guys in Okafor, Embiid, and Saric.
I also didn't make it clear that the idea here with this particular method of team construction would be to lure Westbrook to LA assuming that KD in fact left for Golden State.
Perhaps I overvalue Bradley and Crowder and even Nerlens Noel for that matter but I have looked at the serious bench issues the Lakers have and the even more serious defensive issues the Lakers have. With the Simmons for Noel/Bradley/Crowder deal I was figuring to kill three birds with one stone by showing Westbrook that there is a stout starting core and very solid bench to join in LA where defending scutterbugs like Steph and dynamic wings like KD/Kawhi is pivotal while also having the front court advantage over most teams in having both Whiteside and Noel.
3.) 04 Feb 2016 15:59:35
And it would help if you were capable of reading the very first sentence "in the event that Lakers receive first pick"
4.) 04 Feb 2016 17:30:35
I covered that. Fact is that isn't a smart deal to make. Lakers can get players for defense during free agency. I would not trade the first overall pick for similar guys they can get without giving up draft picks. Also if the Lakers were to trade the 1st overall pick they would want a top level talent in return. That would be my expectation. To give up Ben Simmons I better see top level return.
5.) 04 Feb 2016 18:31:51
This is mainly where we disagree. From who I see available in free agency the next two years, there aren't any high quality rotational players.
Is Nerlens Noel not a top level talent? I think he would look a lot better where his role isn't so up in the air. After more thought in regards to your replies, Simmons is worth a lot more than those three but how much is he worth then as trade bait?
6.) 04 Feb 2016 20:47:16
Some names that have been brought up are Nick Batum, Luol Deng, Tayshaun Prince, Gerald Green. Players who can come off the bench and give good defensive minutes for next season. Depending on what players we don't get they could also start. To me Nerlens Noel is not top level talent. He is a work in progress. We already have enough of those types of players. Now you have the Lakers signing Barnes & Whiteside. There wouldn't be any room for Noel with Randle, Nance Jr., and other free agents. I am unsure if Noel would do well in a bench role. Now you asked what is a guy like Ben Simmons worth in my eyes. He is only worth what some team is willing to give up. That deal may not even be out there next offseason. People brought up Demarcus Cousins, Paul George, and even Blake Griffin. Those players would be great to have if and that's only if we see guys like DeRozan and/or Durant sign with the Lakers so that there is a team that can win. Taking Kobe out and putting one of those 3 in I doubt will win. We will need to sign DeRozan or Durant to add to that talent. Kind of like what the Cavaliers did with Lebron James and they added Kevin Love. Way I look at it is if Cavaliers can do it and Celtics in 2008 can do it why can't the Lakers next season do it. Make a losing team an instant winner.
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07 Jun 2016 13:48:21
Love this. The only problem I see is the addition of Nick Young. He has no value on the trade market and will be waived
29 May 2016 19:03:03
City dude didn't say they were untouchable. What he did say however was that Mitch isn't letting go of the kids unless he's getting a Butler, Cousins, or George. There aren't any other guys in the league who fit the bill of young vet entering his prime with feasible availability other than those three.
29 May 2016 19:00:39
Beal is an interesting thought but everyone on here is going to grill you because of his injury history. If LA were to sign Bea I would have to assume that would mean the end of Jordan Clarkson who has been starting the past season and a half and isn't going to sign on to be a bench guy unless it's behind someone far better than him and maybe not even then
28 May 2016 21:59:26
We have to remember that Ingram is only 18 years old and a stick tiny rookie who has to adjust. Bazemore can be a legit starter as we have seen in Atlanta but he isn't such a big name with such a big contract that having him eventually lose his job to Ingram won't be an ordeal where Bazemore will transition perfectly into a high usage bench guy as he ages.
Not only is Clarkson better as a two, he isn't going to stick around to be a sixth man at a position that is secondary for him.
Waiters may not be worth that under the current CBA but the cap is going to rise this year and the following year. Waiters is a great two player who is only 23 years old who may have championship experience.
When one says that we can get better than that, to whom and what are you referring? There are 31 other teams with possibly better situations and money to spend. This is a realistic scenario that would actually be good for now and the long run that will also attract future free agents whilst keeping cap room for those new free agents.
28 Feb 2016 03:27:18
Correct me if I'm wrong (again), and I mean that earnestly, but isn't the cap going to rise to $90 million? I have Conley, Whiteside, Barnes, and Butler adding up to about $83 million.
I suppose I should have said that Lou and Young must be traded or waived to make room for all of that. Is it plausible now that I've clarified that? Wouldn't Clarkson's cap hold be a most identical to Butler's salary?
I involved all three young talents to gaurantee the retrieval of Butler but I suppose it's possible they'd take only Russell and Randle for JB?
Whether it's possible or not I'm hoping that my post causes people to consider more of an old school lineup that grinds it out and isn't catering to the finesse trend of the current NBA
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